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	<title>Comments on: Decompression Bomb</title>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
		<link>http://www.militantplatypus.com/blog/archives/3549#comment-125797</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 21:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.militantplatypus.com/blog/archives/3549#comment-125797</guid>
		<description>Oops and I forgot, with PureBasic, your operations don't need an opened window, so most ordinary users won't know what is going on as it runs invisibly on the desktop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops and I forgot, with PureBasic, your operations don&#8217;t need an opened window, so most ordinary users won&#8217;t know what is going on as it runs invisibly on the desktop.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
		<link>http://www.militantplatypus.com/blog/archives/3549#comment-125796</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 21:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.militantplatypus.com/blog/archives/3549#comment-125796</guid>
		<description>Well I went looking around the internet and found out that it is what they call a 'fork bomb'. One process starts another, which then starts another and another etc. until RAM/CPU is taken up.

And the bad thing is, they are extremely easy to make, it only takes 2+ lines in DOS (the more lines the more new windows), or 3+ lines in BASIC* (again, the more lines the more windows)

*I use a compiler/library called PureBasic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I went looking around the internet and found out that it is what they call a &#8216;fork bomb&#8217;. One process starts another, which then starts another and another etc. until RAM/CPU is taken up.</p>
<p>And the bad thing is, they are extremely easy to make, it only takes 2+ lines in DOS (the more lines the more new windows), or 3+ lines in BASIC* (again, the more lines the more windows)</p>
<p>*I use a compiler/library called PureBasic</p>
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		<title>By: YODAVID</title>
		<link>http://www.militantplatypus.com/blog/archives/3549#comment-125733</link>
		<dc:creator>YODAVID</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 18:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.militantplatypus.com/blog/archives/3549#comment-125733</guid>
		<description>Danny Says: 

December 20th, 2007 at 10:18 pm 
I think I was just hit with a denial of service attack, but not a decompression bomb. IE kept opening pop-ups every second. I couldn’t close the windows and they just kept opening. I probably had at least 40 pop-ups before I re-booted. Windows task manager wouldn’t even work, and my computer was running so slow that it would have taken a minute to calculate 1+1. Is there a name for this type of pop-up denial of service?

it happen me to ,a week ago,and he it's right :
MILITANTPLATYPUS Says: 

December 21st, 2007 at 9:34 am 
yep, adware. Try one of these (or all of them) to get rid of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny Says: </p>
<p>December 20th, 2007 at 10:18 pm<br />
I think I was just hit with a denial of service attack, but not a decompression bomb. IE kept opening pop-ups every second. I couldn’t close the windows and they just kept opening. I probably had at least 40 pop-ups before I re-booted. Windows task manager wouldn’t even work, and my computer was running so slow that it would have taken a minute to calculate 1+1. Is there a name for this type of pop-up denial of service?</p>
<p>it happen me to ,a week ago,and he it&#8217;s right :<br />
MILITANTPLATYPUS Says: </p>
<p>December 21st, 2007 at 9:34 am<br />
yep, adware. Try one of these (or all of them) to get rid of it.</p>
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		<title>By: MILITANTPLATYPUS</title>
		<link>http://www.militantplatypus.com/blog/archives/3549#comment-125692</link>
		<dc:creator>MILITANTPLATYPUS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 17:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.militantplatypus.com/blog/archives/3549#comment-125692</guid>
		<description>yep, adware.  Try one of these (or all of them) to get rid of it.

http://www.sofotex.com/Bazooka-Adware-and-Spyware-Scanner-download_L14249.html

http://www.download.com/Ad-Aware-2007-Free/3000-8022_4-10045910.html?part=dl-ad-aware&#038;subj=dl&#038;tag=top5

http://www.webroot.com/En_US/consumer-downloads.html?WRSID=b2aba0be39280932992fa4c53444539f</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yep, adware.  Try one of these (or all of them) to get rid of it.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sofotex.com/Bazooka-Adware-and-Spyware-Scanner-download_L14249.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.sofotex.com/Bazooka-Adware-and-Spyware-Scanner-download_L14249.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.download.com/Ad-Aware-2007-Free/3000-8022_4-10045910.html?part=dl-ad-aware&#038;subj=dl&#038;tag=top5" rel="nofollow">http://www.download.com/Ad-Aware-2007-Free/3000-8022_4-10045910.html?part=dl-ad-aware&#038;subj=dl&#038;tag=top5</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.webroot.com/En_US/consumer-downloads.html?WRSID=b2aba0be39280932992fa4c53444539f" rel="nofollow">http://www.webroot.com/En_US/consumer-downloads.html?WRSID=b2aba0be39280932992fa4c53444539f</a></p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
		<link>http://www.militantplatypus.com/blog/archives/3549#comment-125405</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 06:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.militantplatypus.com/blog/archives/3549#comment-125405</guid>
		<description>I think I was just hit with a denial of service attack, but not a decompression bomb. IE kept opening pop-ups every second. I couldn't close the windows and they just kept opening. I probably had at least 40 pop-ups before I re-booted. Windows task manager wouldn't even work, and my computer was running so slow that it would have taken a minute to calculate 1+1. Is there a name for this type of pop-up denial of service?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I was just hit with a denial of service attack, but not a decompression bomb. IE kept opening pop-ups every second. I couldn&#8217;t close the windows and they just kept opening. I probably had at least 40 pop-ups before I re-booted. Windows task manager wouldn&#8217;t even work, and my computer was running so slow that it would have taken a minute to calculate 1+1. Is there a name for this type of pop-up denial of service?</p>
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		<title>By: MILITANTPLATYPUS</title>
		<link>http://www.militantplatypus.com/blog/archives/3549#comment-125391</link>
		<dc:creator>MILITANTPLATYPUS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 05:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.militantplatypus.com/blog/archives/3549#comment-125391</guid>
		<description>It pays to know who is sending you a file..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It pays to know who is sending you a file..</p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
		<link>http://www.militantplatypus.com/blog/archives/3549#comment-125308</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.militantplatypus.com/blog/archives/3549#comment-125308</guid>
		<description>A torrent doesn't decompress files, nor should it take up huge amounts of memory. BitTorrents are usually large files that are stored in tiny bits, and are stored on many computers. The torrent file (usually *.torrent) is a small file telling your torrent application where to find the bits I think. Anyway it downloads those bits and stores them in the files, then it downloads more bits. It should only hold in memory the bits that it is downloading and the .torrent file, so I don't see how torrents could be decompression bombs.

I don't know how you could avoid them, just make sure you are downloading from a trusted scource. Anybody could make one with a bit of knowledge with hex-editors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A torrent doesn&#8217;t decompress files, nor should it take up huge amounts of memory. BitTorrents are usually large files that are stored in tiny bits, and are stored on many computers. The torrent file (usually *.torrent) is a small file telling your torrent application where to find the bits I think. Anyway it downloads those bits and stores them in the files, then it downloads more bits. It should only hold in memory the bits that it is downloading and the .torrent file, so I don&#8217;t see how torrents could be decompression bombs.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how you could avoid them, just make sure you are downloading from a trusted scource. Anybody could make one with a bit of knowledge with hex-editors.</p>
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		<title>By: YODAVID</title>
		<link>http://www.militantplatypus.com/blog/archives/3549#comment-125234</link>
		<dc:creator>YODAVID</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.militantplatypus.com/blog/archives/3549#comment-125234</guid>
		<description>Jwelch Says: 

February 12th, 2007 at 11:18 am 
Don’t you need 100Gb to make the file in the first place?

MILITANTPLATYPUS Says: 

February 12th, 2007 at 12:14 pm 
sure, but I have over 400Gb of disc space on my computer at home..

Thanks for the reply!i have this problem (Decompression bomb )with some torrent fille.no harm so far, but my disk drives are geeting full  when bitcomet is downloadig this torrents files.i'm not decompressesing any data.
please geveme some advice ,if you cann and want,how cann i avoid downloading this kainds of torrents or ader fille
thanks again!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jwelch Says: </p>
<p>February 12th, 2007 at 11:18 am<br />
Don’t you need 100Gb to make the file in the first place?</p>
<p>MILITANTPLATYPUS Says: </p>
<p>February 12th, 2007 at 12:14 pm<br />
sure, but I have over 400Gb of disc space on my computer at home..</p>
<p>Thanks for the reply!i have this problem (Decompression bomb )with some torrent fille.no harm so far, but my disk drives are geeting full  when bitcomet is downloadig this torrents files.i&#8217;m not decompressesing any data.<br />
please geveme some advice ,if you cann and want,how cann i avoid downloading this kainds of torrents or ader fille<br />
thanks again!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
		<link>http://www.militantplatypus.com/blog/archives/3549#comment-125220</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.militantplatypus.com/blog/archives/3549#comment-125220</guid>
		<description>I just DID!!! If you actually LOOKED at my EXAMPLE I showed you how compressed files are compressed. You don't NEED a 100gb file, all you need is a hex-editor or something. Then you create an empty archive. Then you write something like:

99999999999999999999999 0

and that is your huge file. It only takes 24 bytes of disc space to write, but when decompressed it takes up 93132257461547.85gb of memory (The remainder was so huge I had it shortened to .85)

and if i only had 6kb of disc space i could still make a HUGE decompression bomb. And with 24kb of disc space, well, that is totally unbelievable. And there you have it, YoDavid.

(BTW in my previous post i rushed and my name was misspelt. My name isn't dannt, it is Danny)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just DID!!! If you actually LOOKED at my EXAMPLE I showed you how compressed files are compressed. You don&#8217;t NEED a 100gb file, all you need is a hex-editor or something. Then you create an empty archive. Then you write something like:</p>
<p>99999999999999999999999 0</p>
<p>and that is your huge file. It only takes 24 bytes of disc space to write, but when decompressed it takes up 93132257461547.85gb of memory (The remainder was so huge I had it shortened to .85)</p>
<p>and if i only had 6kb of disc space i could still make a HUGE decompression bomb. And with 24kb of disc space, well, that is totally unbelievable. And there you have it, YoDavid.</p>
<p>(BTW in my previous post i rushed and my name was misspelt. My name isn&#8217;t dannt, it is Danny)</p>
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		<title>By: YODAVID</title>
		<link>http://www.militantplatypus.com/blog/archives/3549#comment-125199</link>
		<dc:creator>YODAVID</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.militantplatypus.com/blog/archives/3549#comment-125199</guid>
		<description>IT IS HARD TO MAKE A 1 gb txt file.
try to make  a 100 gb txt file!
tell me if you can</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IT IS HARD TO MAKE A 1 gb txt file.<br />
try to make  a 100 gb txt file!<br />
tell me if you can</p>
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		<title>By: Dannt</title>
		<link>http://www.militantplatypus.com/blog/archives/3549#comment-121304</link>
		<dc:creator>Dannt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.militantplatypus.com/blog/archives/3549#comment-121304</guid>
		<description>I heard you only need 6k of disc space to make a compressed file 100gb big. possible because in a file everything is stored in binary blahblahblah and compression apps shrink it blahblahblah e.g:

1 2 4 1 7 1 6 6 2 7 7 8 2 2 2 7 3
becomes:
1 2 4 1 7 1 26 2 27 8 32 7 3 or something
then you could make a file like:
100 9
meaning 100 9's in a row
99999999999999999 9
a lot of nines in a row-billions

now that is a lot of bits wasted, repeating the number nine over 10,000,000,000,000,000 times</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard you only need 6k of disc space to make a compressed file 100gb big. possible because in a file everything is stored in binary blahblahblah and compression apps shrink it blahblahblah e.g:</p>
<p>1 2 4 1 7 1 6 6 2 7 7 8 2 2 2 7 3<br />
becomes:<br />
1 2 4 1 7 1 26 2 27 8 32 7 3 or something<br />
then you could make a file like:<br />
100 9<br />
meaning 100 9&#8217;s in a row<br />
99999999999999999 9<br />
a lot of nines in a row-billions</p>
<p>now that is a lot of bits wasted, repeating the number nine over 10,000,000,000,000,000 times</p>
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		<title>By: MILITANTPLATYPUS</title>
		<link>http://www.militantplatypus.com/blog/archives/3549#comment-57077</link>
		<dc:creator>MILITANTPLATYPUS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.militantplatypus.com/blog/archives/3549#comment-57077</guid>
		<description>thanks doood!  i'll be sure to check it out and unzip it as soon as I get it

I know that most zip/compression tools will show you how much it is compressed in a percentage.  I wonder if looking at that would save you any heart ache.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks doood!  i&#8217;ll be sure to check it out and unzip it as soon as I get it</p>
<p>I know that most zip/compression tools will show you how much it is compressed in a percentage.  I wonder if looking at that would save you any heart ache.</p>
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		<title>By: webnician</title>
		<link>http://www.militantplatypus.com/blog/archives/3549#comment-57074</link>
		<dc:creator>webnician</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 22:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.militantplatypus.com/blog/archives/3549#comment-57074</guid>
		<description>Sweet!! Oh... no, that's terrible that people do this kinda' crap and that there are still these vulnerabilities in our vital technologies. Hey, Platypus, I'm gonna' be sending you an awesome movie of my nekkid ex-girlfriend. It's kinda' big, so I'll probably ZIP it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sweet!! Oh&#8230; no, that&#8217;s terrible that people do this kinda&#8217; crap and that there are still these vulnerabilities in our vital technologies. Hey, Platypus, I&#8217;m gonna&#8217; be sending you an awesome movie of my nekkid ex-girlfriend. It&#8217;s kinda&#8217; big, so I&#8217;ll probably ZIP it.</p>
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		<title>By: MILITANTPLATYPUS</title>
		<link>http://www.militantplatypus.com/blog/archives/3549#comment-57044</link>
		<dc:creator>MILITANTPLATYPUS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 20:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.militantplatypus.com/blog/archives/3549#comment-57044</guid>
		<description>sure, but I have over 400Gb of disc space on my computer at home..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sure, but I have over 400Gb of disc space on my computer at home..</p>
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		<title>By: Jwelch</title>
		<link>http://www.militantplatypus.com/blog/archives/3549#comment-57038</link>
		<dc:creator>Jwelch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 19:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.militantplatypus.com/blog/archives/3549#comment-57038</guid>
		<description>Don't you need 100Gb to make the file in the first place?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t you need 100Gb to make the file in the first place?</p>
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