Israel
I have been having a fierce debate today with some people. It was tipped off by the posting of this pic:
The discussion has been long, and for the most part pointless circular. My point of view is best summed up by a comedian (go figure). Thanks to eddo for the quote from Dennis Miller.
The Palestinians want their own country. There’s just one thing about that: There are no Palestinians. It’s a made up word. Israel was called Palestine for two thousand years. Like “Wiccan,” “Palestinian” sounds ancient but is really a modern invention Before the Israelis won the land in the 1967 war, Gaza was owned by Egypt, the West Bank was owned by Jordan, and there were no “Palestinians.”
As soon as the Jews took over and started growing oranges as big as basketballs, what do you know, say hello to the “Palestinians,” weeping for their deep bond with their lost “land” and “nation.”
So for the sake of honesty, let’s not use the word “Palestinian” any more to describe these delightful folks, who dance for joy at our deaths until someone points out they’re being taped. Instead, let’s call them what they are:
“Other Arabs Who Can’t Accomplish Anything In Life And Would Rather Wrap Themselves In The Seductive Melodrama Of Eternal Struggle And Death.”I know that’s a bit unwieldy to expect to see on CNN. How about this, then: “Adjacent Jew-Haters.” Okay, so the Adjacent Jew-Haters want their own country. Oops, just one more thing. No, they don’t. They could’ve had their own country any time in the last thirty years, especially two years ago at Camp David. But if you have your own country, you have to have traffic lights and garbage trucks and Chambers of Commerce, and, worse, you actually have to figure out some way to make a living.
That’s no fun. No, they want what all the other Jew-Haters in the region want: Israel. They also want a big pile of dead Jews, of course –that’s where the real fun is — but mostly they want Israel.
Why? For one thing, trying to destroy Israel - or “The Zionist Entity” as their textbooks call it — for the last fifty years has allowed the rulers of Arab countries to divert the attention of their own people away from the fact that they’re the blue-ribbon most illiterate, poorest, and tribally backward on
God’s Earth, and if you’ve ever been around God’s Earth, you know that’s really saying something.It makes me roll my eyes every time one of our pundits waxes poetic about the great history and culture of the Muslim Mid east. Unless I’m missing something, the Arabs haven’t given anything to the world since Algebra, and, by the way, thanks a hell of a lot for that one.
Chew this around and spit it out: Five hundred million Arabs; five Million Jews. Think of all the Arab countries as a football field, and Israel as a pack of matches sitting in the middle of it. And now these same folks swear that if Israel gives them half of that pack of matches,Everyone will be pals..
Really? Wow, what neat news. Hey, but what about the string of wars to obliterate the tiny country and the constant din of rabid blood oaths to drive every Jew into the sea? Oh, that? We were just kidding.
My friend Kevin Rooney made a gorgeous point the other day: Just reverse the numbers. Imagine five hundred million Jews and five million Arabs. I was stunned at the simple brilliance of it. Can anyone picture the Jews strapping belts of razor blades and dynamite to themselves? Of course not.
Or marshaling every fiber and force at their disposal for generations to drive a tiny Arab State into the sea?Nonsense. Or dancing for joy at the murder of innocents? Impossible. Or spreading and believing horrible lies about the Arabs baking their bread with the blood of children?
Disgusting.
No, as you know, left to themselves in a world of peace, the worst Jews would ever do to people is debate them to death.
Mr. Bush, God bless him, is walking a tightrope. I understand that with vital operations in Iraq and others, it’s in our interest, as Americans, to try to stabilize our Arab allies as much as possible, and, after all, that can’t be much harder than stabilizing a roomful of super models who’ve just had their drugs taken away.
However, in any big-picture strategy, there’s always a danger of losing moral weight. We’ve already lost some. After September 11th our president told us and the world he was going to root out all terrorists and the countries that supported them. Beautiful. Then the Israelis, after months and months of having the equivalent of an Oklahoma City
every week (and then every day) start to do the same thing we did, and we tell them to show restraint.If America were being attacked with an Oklahoma City every day, we would all very shortly be screaming for the administration to just be done with it and kill everything
south of the Mediterranean and east of the Jordan.”
I am exhausted from the debate, and don’t really wish to continue it. Mostly I posted this to spark a debate amoungst you and your friends.
May 15th, 2007 at 10:03 pm
if you want to understand the history of the region, palestinians began believing in the idea of palestinian “nationality”, and i do repeat, nationality about the mid 1920s, before that we used to belong to greater syria, or bilad alsham [direct translation means: syrian states] under ottoman rule, but people used to believe in their unique culture, proverbs, stories, food etc, we [and other greater syrian states] used to refere to palestinian folklore, palestinian dancing, palestinian food, stories, etc.
i’d like to take the U.S.A for example, let’s say the U.S gets split, before that, there was nothing as Newyorker as a nationality, or texan, or floridanian, etc…
israeli as a nationality was formed after palestinians, at the creation of the israeli state, before that there was nothing as “israeli” nationality, the whole idea of zionizm came out at the time facism was thriving in europe, nationalistic entity, italy, germany, are the most known examples, a nationality for one race only.
and i’ll reply for another thing, since eddo and this ‘comedian’ believe all arabs want is to destroy israel no matter what israel does, why doesn’t the U.S.A host them, you are more civilized and generous, arabs have 22 states, while the U.S has 50 states, wow, more than half, hell you can give them 2 states, not one, since you are so generous in giving arab land, why don’t you give american land.
May 15th, 2007 at 10:06 pm
sorry, meant more than double, not more than half.
May 16th, 2007 at 8:27 am
I can’t fully support Zionism, but after have the shit kicked out of them for thousands of years, the Jews finally made a stand somewhere. Where ever they had chosen would have pissed people off, so they chose a place that had significance to them (Texas wasn’t on that list). As I have admitted in all of our conversations, the Jews could be handling the situation much better than they are; but for me the bottom line is they deserve a homeland, and deserve the right to defend it.